Homebrew Website Club

We're webcasting the Homebrew Website Club at https://talky.io/hwc

Tantek Çelik:

The Homebrew Computer Club started when microprocessors got cheap enough for individuals - in 1975

I have a software update pending on my Mac and iPod that will force me to use iCloud - timesharing returns

Lee would say "Welcome to the Homebrew Website Club, which does not exist"

Joël Franusic:

I host my own domain using the github tool Jekyll, but I want OpenStreetMap, Wikipedia et al on my computer

Kevin Marks:

I hack on indieweb stuff. I have my stuff at kevinmarks.com on a static site

Ben Werdmuller:

I've been running my own domain on WordPress but I wanted to make my own, hence idno

I was really interested in POSSE - lots of people don't understand sending things out from your own site

I care about giving people meaningful control without losing functionality

I'm also interested in how indieweb and POSSE applies to companies as well as individuals

Pius:

I'm at pius.me I'm interested in the domain name as the new phone number - I want to get a domain+services for non-tech

John Rogerson:

I used @al3x's Sovereign to set up a lot of services on my own domain using ansible

this gets me ownCloud - like dropbox, calendar, webserver, etc - paying $20/mo + an SSL cert for $100

Tantek Çelik:

I like that people are taking different approaches and solving different problems

WordPress and Drupal are like minicomputers - the expense is not money but time learning how to hack

each has community, but there is almost an initiation rite that make you commit to 1 codebase to rule them all

this monoculture antipattern is getting repeated over and over - appreciate we're doing different things

there are different technical skills, and we appreciate that. Building blocks at indiewebcamp.com

I want to solve how to do good event posts - seems like a hard problem, especially design and UX

Ben Werdmuller:

the invitations associated with an event are also important- we don't have a mechanism for that

Jay Wong:

I'm a UI designer. I have my own website at http://www.jaywong.co/ but I'm not happy with WordPress

WordPress seems a lot heavier - everyone is trying to use it for ecommerce

Matthew Levine:

My site is matthewlevine.com- it's mostly placeholder and pointers to other presences. It runs on AppEngine

I'm interested in the UX of publishing itself, and in better ways to tell stories through websites

I'm interested in the PESOS stuff, where POSSE falls short - fitbit does that will, but I want it on my site

I want to use these other things to tell my own story on my own website

it would be great to have activity stream compatible updates form all these devices, but it doesn't exist

I'd like a proxy that translates the fitbit, Up etc sites into activity streams

Ryan Barrett:

I have a proxy that turns Facebook, Twitter G+ etc into activity streams, @matthewlevine we should talk

everyone who makes self-tracking things has a different api

Kevin Marks:

hardware people tend to make up their own formats even more than software people

Tantek Çelik:

it's handy when laziness and self-interest combine to make lockin

Jay Wong:

I want to have all my stuff in one place that is co-ordinated and under my control

I want to have a website to organise my life

Ben Werdmuller:

the Personal Cloud movement seem to not want it to be a website, but more of a box

I want to say 'these are mine, these are visible to you too'

Tantek Çelik:

by globally accsessible I want accsessible to me

Ryan Barrett:

when indieweb we focus on sharing to people first; personal cloud on things just for ourselves

Tantek Çelik:

we start from the simpler problem, because public is simpler

you'll get to private faster if you do public first

Matthew Levine:

all the stuff that I want to be private, I want a record of every spend, but maybe a public summary

Tantek Çelik:

your transactions on VenMo by default are not private - your friends can favorite and comment on them

Matthew Levine:

I want to share with some people, not with everyone

Pius:

Path is trying to be the place that you share everything with a few people.

Jay Wong:

Path is trying to build a narrative of your life, intertwined with friends, but reality, not public stuff

with Path I have to narrate my own story; if I have a feed of expenses under my control I can do more

Ben Werdmuller:

if I'm looking at my life I want something like Mint, but under my control

Kevin Marks:

I find Mint frustrating because it tells me things I already know and give bad pie charts

Path I have stopped using because I wasn't sure what I had I wanted to share with that group specifically

Tantek Çelik:

the trap is 'why can't one person solve it' is false -we need a plurality of approaches

Ryan Barrett:

the other extreme is everyone has to write their own stack for themselves - we want a collection

we don't want everyone to write code, but

Tantek Çelik:

open source communities are engrained in there being only one service

Pius:

we have these high level things like Medium, WordPress and low level like AWS we need things inbetween

Matthew Levine:

I like having a lot of examples that we learn from, with a curve people can climb up

Jay Wong:

I like Tumblr - it's like if Blogger 2005 had updated to 2013 - it's easy to make it nice.

Matthew Levine:

Tumblr makes it too easy to make nice themes - MySpace forced you to copy and paste HTML

John Rogerson:

you do worry if these thinsg are going to survive - Tumblr, Blogger will all rot.

Kevin Marks:

I've been live tweeting with my indieweb tool www.noterlive.com